Helping the Refuseniks (215)
Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times
Ian Sanders
4.8 • 863 Ratings
🗓️ 1 January 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Cold War Conversations, the home of real stories of the Cold War. |
| 0:05.8 | We could see in the phone booth across the way a guy with the newspaper in front of his eyes watching us. |
| 0:14.4 | This is Cold War Conversations. |
| 0:19.2 | If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to first-hand |
| 0:23.3 | Cold War history accounts. Do make sure you follow us in your podcast app so that you don't |
| 0:28.7 | miss out on future episodes. Refusenik was an unofficial term for individuals typically but not |
| 0:37.3 | exclusively Soviet Jews, |
| 0:39.7 | who were denied permission to emigrate primarily to Israel by the authorities of the Soviet Union |
| 0:45.0 | and other countries of the Eastern Bloc. |
| 0:48.3 | Eric Hochstein was a staff member for Senator Carl Levin of Michigan working on human rights. Human rights was a big |
| 0:56.9 | issue for Senator Levin. Eric went as part of a standard commercial tour of the Soviet Union for two |
| 1:03.3 | weeks from September the 28th, 1980 where he visited Moscow, Karkov, Kiev, Odessa and Leningrad. |
| 1:11.9 | Eric and his colleagues used this trip to peel off and visit various Refusnik families |
| 1:16.9 | to bring them news, messages and supplies. |
| 1:20.9 | Only protected by a US passport and a tourist visa, |
| 1:24.8 | Eric travelled by public transport under surveillance from the KGB carrying supplies |
| 1:29.7 | for the families, including Levi jeans, which were better than money in the Soviet Union of the |
| 1:35.3 | 1980s. Now, I could really use your support to help me to capture and preserve these amazing stories of the Cold War. |
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| 2:03.7 | If you can't wait for next week's episode, do visit our Facebook discussion group where guests and listeners just like you continue the Cold War Conversation. |
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