Welcome to a new week on the Especial John podcast.

We have a big week ahead as we come up on Easter.

And today we're joined again by our friend Ray Ortland, author and senior pastor of

a manual church in Nashville, Tennessee.

Ray, the the Ortland family has a long and wonderful history when it comes to fruitful

gospel ministry and marriage and parenting.

Those three categories come to mind when they think of the Ortland family legacies.

Local ministry marriage parenting, which is an astonishing legacy to watch from a distance.

And we we talked about marriage earlier in episode number 559 and we will talk gospel

soon.

Here I want to talk about parenting.

Some people will know your dad.

He was a wonderfully gifted preacher and pastor and his influence on a young John paper was

profound.

Pastor John shared that story in episode number 172 of this podcast series.

In what ways did your father impact you as a child and in turn what did you seek to

instill in your three sons and daughter when they were young?

Well let me just paint the picture of a moment with my dad that's very dear to me.

We were in the front yard and I was 10 or 12 years old I forget and we were I guess doing

yard work.

And whatever the context was I can't pull that up in my memory but he turned to me and

he looked me right in the eye in the middle of our conversation and he said you know

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