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Join us as we chat all things gardening with the nation's favourite experts.

Hospitals can be frightening and emotional places. So anything we can do to make the visit

an easier one is a good thing. I've seen firsthand our hospital gardens can really help on so

many levels, patients, visitors, staff. So should every hospital have a garden? Hello, I'm Adam Frost

and today I'm chatting to two people that I already know, Dr Maria Long and Alice Cornwall,

whose community development officer for the RHS. So I first met these two when I was designing the

garden for University Hospital Lewisham. So the three of us really appreciate and understand

the importance of green space for hospitals. Hello ladies. Thank you for coming in, Maria, Alice.

Maria, you've just done a two-night shift in the hospital.

Yeah. So actually, if you don't make any sense of tour, it doesn't matter. We've sort of,

we can put that up front. You've had no sleep for the last couple of nights. And Alice,

I met you probably 18 months, two years ago. You just started at the RHS. And Maria,

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