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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Helping Complex Kids Thrive Through Practical Behavioral Parenting Strategies: Jenny Demark, Linda Reinstein and Conrad Leung | Session 332

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Science, Social Sciences

4.8662 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Jenny Demark, Conrad Leung, and Dr. Linda Reinstein to talk about their new book, Complex Kids, Simple Solutions: How to Raise Resilient, Confident, Likable Kids.

These are clinicians who've spent years working directly with families dealing with everything from emotion regulation challenges, to childhood anxiety, to severe behavioral challenges, and what I liked about this conversation is that it stayed extremely practical throughout.

We spent a lot of time talking about their "Prepare, Teach, Motivate" framework, and how parents and professionals can think more systematically about helping kids build resilience and coping skills rather than just reacting to challenging behavior in the moment.

Along the way, we discussed:

  • Why some children require more intentional and consistent parenting approaches than others.

  • How to build stronger relationships with kids who engage in challenging behavior.

  • The importance of following a child's interests to create meaningful connection.

  • Screen time struggles and how to reduce device dependence without escalating conflict.

  • Emotion regulation strategies for children with frequent outbursts.

  • Why many young children struggle to generalize skills learned in traditional talk therapy.

  • The role of parental accommodation in maintaining anxiety and avoidance.

  • Practical approaches to school refusal and helping kids gradually face difficult situations.

  • Why parent coaching is often more effective than focusing exclusively on the child in therapy.

  • The importance of self-care for parents and practitioners alike.

I think this episode will be especially valuable for behavior analysts, school professionals, clinicians, and of course parents trying to support kids with more complex behavioral and emotional needs.

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  • CEUs from Behavioral Observations. Learn from your favorite podcast guests while you're commuting, walking the dog, or whatever else you do while listening to podcasts. New events are being added all the time, so check them out here
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  • The Behavioral Toolbox International. Check out our courses for school-based and other behavioral professionals, including our newest one, Motivational Interviewing: Getting Educator Buy-In.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, welcome to session 332 of the behavioral observations podcast.

0:04.8

In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Jenny DeMarc, Conrad Leung, and Dr. Linda Reinstein

0:10.9

to talk about their new book, Complex Kids, Simple Solutions, How to Raise Resilient, Confident, Likeable Kids.

0:18.2

These are clinicians who spent years working directly with families, dealing with

0:22.0

everything from emotion regulation challenges to school refusal to severe behavioral issues.

0:27.7

What I liked about this conversation is that it stayed extremely practical throughout it.

0:31.9

Spent a lot of time talking about their prepare, teach, motivate framework and how parents and

0:36.5

professionals can think more systematically

0:38.7

about helping kids build resilience and coping skills rather than just reacting to challenging

0:43.7

behavior in the moment. We also got into topics like screen time, parental accommodation,

0:49.1

the limits of traditional talk therapy for younger children, and why relationship building

0:53.9

and skill building really have to go hand in hand.

0:56.9

I think this episode will be especially valuable for behavior analyst, school professionals, clinicians, and of course parents trying to support kids with more complex behavioral and emotional needs.

1:06.3

And we'll get right into the interview shortly, but first I just want to say this episode is brought to you

1:11.9

by the behavioral toolbox. If you are a school-based professional, go to the behavioral toolbox.com

1:17.7

and check out some of the online, on-demand courses that myself and my colleagues, Dr. Zanika Costa,

1:25.7

Polly Gavoni, and Matt Linder have put together for you.

1:28.7

We've also got some fun stuff in the works that can't talk about right now,

1:32.2

but I'm excited to share when the time is right.

1:36.2

We're also brought to you by CEOs from Behavioral Observations.

1:39.2

That's right.

1:39.9

Earn your continuing education while listening to your favorite podcast guests.

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