Ladies and gentlemen, welcome in to Tom Carnes, Talk podcast, Phil Perry alongside, the Senator and I could not be happier to welcome in, back by popular demand, one of our favorite guests, Thorne Nystrom, out of Minnesota.

He has been a draft analyst and expert for years.

And Phil, you must feel humbled to be in the presence of...

Listen, all I know is I'm borderline intimidated because I'm on a podcast with not two of the world's biggest, but the world's two biggest J.J. McCarthy fans.

We couldn't have Mr. and Mrs. McCarthy on the podcast and have any two bigger fans than Tommy Kern and Thorne when it comes to JJ McCarthy.

And so I just, I want to ask Thor if he's recovered from

JJ McCarthy's preseason injury last season,

that being as devastating as I know it was to Thor just

emotionally, mentally and spiritually.

Yeah, it was a devastating turn of events.

You know, after that amazing first preseason game me at against the Raiders.

And then two days later, I actually went, I was on a date.

The date brought me to the night practices that the Vikings, this is a true story, I swear.

And so, like, I was going to go in person for the practice and we get there.

And then the, you get the report on Twitter of, oh, JJ is not going to be at practice

today.

He's just having a little bit of knee soreness, right?

That was the first time we'd heard about it.

I think it was Monday night.

And I was just like oh no and then

the next day was when they said you know the meniscus thing but yeah it was a it's a tough scene

but I you know we're more concerned about the other years of his contract and going forward than

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