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Now, you know how much I love me coffee.

When I get off the radio, I need one straight after because I always crash.

After getting up so early and then chatting for four hours, I'd talk about it.

You do get a bit exhausted.

So it's nice to have a little pick-me-up, isn't it?

Do you ever feel like that?

Yes. you do get a bit exhausted, so it's nice to have a little pick-me-up, isn't it? Do you ever feel like that? Yes, normally when Mikey comes out in the shower in the morning, that's when I press go on the

kettle. We do love our coffee, don't we? Yes. And whenever I feel like I deserve a caffeine

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Right. I've been on the M.E. Cafe Larte protein.

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Oh, yeah, I can see the

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Help. Jordan, do you feel like it's hard as a man to talk about your mental health?

Yeah, things are definitely getting better, but there's still a bit of a stigma around men's

mental health, isn't there? Yeah, I do agree. As you say, people are reticent to talk about it,

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