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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John, and I'm here with my friends, Duranda Wilson, and

you have found the Busy Mom podcast. We're really glad that you're here today. Duranda,

you keep coming back for more. I'm glad that you're here. So for those of you who don't

know Duranda or me for that matter, I guess, I have seven children. They range in age from

almost five to 24, and I've got one grand baby with one on the way. Duranda and I are kind

of in a grandchild race. We are. We're kind of in a little bit of a teeny competition.

We're trying not to get snarky with each other. And you have two grand babies.

I do. Yeah. That's right. But none on the way. So really, I know about to tie with you.

You are coming up. You are. And in my defense, I've got one child who's like working it,

trying to get the second one here. And you've got two that I'm pretty stupid for you so far.

So we're doing this thing. You have eight children. And so between the two of us, we figure

15 kids. You know, we got a lot to talk about. We do a lot on our minds. We've got to take

a lot of walks to burn that off. So if you have found me at the busy mom, you're at the right

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