I knew this is where comedy was.

Goni Carson changed my life twice.

It was just like a dream. It was just like everything I had worked for

and dreamed about has come to fruition.

They said Johnny fell overlapping.

It makes me so happy.

I made him laugh.

But with Johnny, you knew you had a kid audience and you could really go great.

My wife at the curtain all held real loose backstage.

People were running up and he said, go back out, go back out.

Johnny, you want you back.

I walked back through the curtain very common.

And Johnny, I took about and Johnny put that little circle up the finger,

and I knew I was the man. Welcome to the Carson Podcast. I am Mark Malkoff. This week our guest is Johnny Carson's former longtime assistant Helen Sanders.

Miss Sanders was Johnny's assistant at the Tonight Show and in retirement.

It meant a lot talking with her Helen Sanders and I got together in Los Angeles, California.

Helen Sanders, thanks for talking with us.

Thank you for having me. So when and how did you meet Johnny Carson? The first

time I ever saw him was on an elevator at the Bushkin offices, but the first time I

actually met him was at a rat party for one of the Carson

productions Cassian Coe and that was probably 1982 when I actually was introduced to him and

met him.

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