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This is the Woman's Our Podcast.

It is good morning, Helen Mirren is our guest on the programme today and will also meet

the woman who was a barmer's ambassador to the UN Samantha Power is live on the programme.

And we start a new series about abortion, five different women tell their very personal

stories on Woman's Our, this week and indeed next as well.

Now Dame Helen Mirren, a co-stars with Ian McKellen in a new film The Good Liar.

It's based on a novel by Nicholas Cirl.

Helen is a retired teacher, she's recently widowed, and she's dipping her toe into the

world of online dating.

Ian is the con man she meets, or is it, as clear cut as that, of course it isn't.

A film that starts behind the net curtains of Suburbia takes you to post-war Berlin.

And actually the truth is, you're never entirely sure who's out to get who.

It's something I put to Dame Helen.

On the face of it, this is a film about scamming and about women being had.

It turns out not to be as simple as that, but are you ripe, you couldn't be scammed,

could you?

You have been scammed, I was scammed, I was so embarrassed about it and that's the terrible

thing, isn't it?

When you're scammed, you're so mortified that you really don't tell anyone because

you're so embarrassing, humiliating.

There's hardly anyone listening, so you can tell me.

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