Welcome to You Can't Make This Up, a companion podcast for Netflix original true crime stories.

I'm Rebecca Lervoy, your host. Each episode we take a close up look at a narrative documentary or series on Netflix and I talk to the people who made them,

diving deep into their process and getting answers to questions raised by what I just watched.

Today is the third and final episode in our special coverage of the

series Heist. I'll be joined by the series executive producer Nick Frew, who directed the final story in the

Heist trilogy, The Bourbon King.

A note to listeners, this podcast episode contains

spoilers from the documentary, so make sure to watch both

episodes of The Bourbon King on heist before listening on.

Suburban father Toby Kurtzinger was bored when he began smuggling and selling

bottles of rare and expensive whiskey from the distillery where he worked in Frankfurt, Kentucky.

But what seemed like an easy way to improve his family's quality of life soon escalated

from a booze skimming side hustle to organized crime.

I was the kind of guy that you knew that could get stuff.

I was kind of like a mini Amazon and you know if you got to talk to me we became

friends and you said hey man can you help me get this I'll help you get it, boom.

Helping you get something, release a small endorphin that made me feel good.

As I was saying, you know, the devil deceived me, he showed me something I wanted and it felt good, it looked good.

But guess what?

Sooner later, that Bill comes to.

Nick, welcome to you can't make this up.

Hey, thank you.

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