Heidi Zuckerman: Why Art Matters

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 12.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2022

⏱️ 118 minutes

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What defines art? What makes one an artist? What does art teach us—and why does it matter? To help us make sense of a world elusive to many, today I convene with the singular Heidi Zuckerman. A woman I’ve known for over 30 years, Heidi has devoted her entire professional career to understanding art, the people who make art, and why we should care. Heidi currently serves as CEO and Director of the Orange County Museum of Art, where she is overseeing construction of a spectacular new building designed by legendary architect Thom Mayne of Morphosis, scheduled to open in October 2022. In addition, she hosts Conversations About Art (a podcast on which I was privileged to be a guest) and is the author of the Conversations with Artists book series. This is a conversation about art. In addition to tracking Heidi’s career arc, we discuss what defines art, what makes for great art, why we should care about art, and why artists matter. We discuss the barriers to accessing art. How art can and should be democratized. And the role of art and artists in this era of offense and content overload. On a personal level, this one is very meaningful given my long history with Heidi. I really enjoyed this conversation—I hope you learn as much as I did. Watch: YouTube. Read: Show notes Today’s Sponsors: Outerknown: High-quality, sustainably produced, and great-looking men’s and women’s clothes. Go to outerknown.com and enter my code ROLL at checkout to get 25% off your full-price order. Squarespace: The easiest way to create a beautiful website, blog, or online store for you and your ideas. Visit Squarespace.com/RichRoll for a FREE trial, and when you’re ready to launch, use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. LMNT: A science-backed electrolyte drink mix with everything you need and nothing you don’t. Right now LMNT is offering my listeners a free sample pack with any purchase—that’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. Try it out at drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL Levels: Making continuous glucose monitoring mainstream for the first time ever. Learn more about your metabolic health with personalized insights & biometric data. Learn more at levels.link/RICHROLL Athletic Greens: 75 whole food sourced ingredients designed to optimize 5 key areas of health. Go to: athleticgreens.com/richroll to get a FREE year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs of AG1 with your first purchase. Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:31.5	Alright, let's do the show.
0:38.8	What I say is that if the person who made it says its art, then its art.
0:43.8	So it's all about the intention.
0:45.9	It's about the intention of the creator.
0:48.6	You know, I think that art matters because it's a way of communicating things that have
0:55.4	no other way to be told.
0:58.8	It's like an alternate language, so art for me communicates things that everything else
1:04.8	fails short to do.
1:21.1	We're going to talk about art, how to define it, how to understand it, and why it matters.
1:29.9	My conversational partner for this affair is a big shot in this world, and a woman I've
1:35.0	known since I was about 21, her name is Heidi Suckerman.
1:39.9	Heidi spent 14 years as the CEO and director of the Aspen Art Museum where she successfully
1:45.8	reimagined it as a world-class institution, and she's currently the CEO and director of
1:52.5	the Orange County Museum of Arts.
1:55.0	Prior to both, she held posts at Berkeley Art Museum, and Pacific Film Archive, and was
2:00.9	a curator at the Jewish Museum in New York.
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