I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

Welcome to another episode of the Bakari Self's podcast.

Today we have somebody who is very, very, very, very smart,

raising the level of intellect on the show but Heidi Prasbella did I get that right I know we just

practiced it yeah you got the smart part right no you got the name part. I don't know about the smart part, but yes.

Okay. All right. Well, as long I want to get the name part right and I'm certain I got the smart part right as well.

But thank you so much for joining us. How you been doing? I'm good. Thank you. I just you know watching watching

another month of unprecedented here. Yeah, you know, I was talking to somebody the other day and I was like, when are we going to get back to precedent at times? I just want normal precedent it stuff.

I don't think we're going to be there for a while.

Buckle up.

And buckle up. So we start each one of our shows the same way. We ask our guests to walk us through the arc of their careers.

And you've been a part of the country's top newsrooms. Can you talk about how you got into political reporting

your various stops

since finishing up at Michigan State and the beach

you have now.

Oh, that's great.

I love starting that way.

I did it, you know, the traditional way.

No, actually I cold called my way into Washington I knew no one you know I graduated

my with no contacts here with a degree in international relations in German from Michigan State

and just decided I did not want to be in business. I was recruited to go to Arthur Anderson and be kind of an executive, you know, one of a female, a rare female in their accounting department, but I said no thanks. So anyway, I came here, I worked for a German journalist. I basically cold call my way in, said I speak German, let me work for you,

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