From the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

the Armstrong and Gettyshow. I can just remember my my breath catching in my throat

because what I saw was just a war scene. It was something like I had seen out of the movies.

I couldn't believe my eyes. There were officers on the ground. They were bleeding.

They were throwing up. I saw friends with blood all over their faces. I was slipping in people's blood.

I was catching people as they fell. It was carnage. It was chaos.

Some testimony last night from one of the law enforcement people trying to hold back the mob there at the Capitol back on January 6th with the January 6th hearings up and running in prime time.

We saw some new video, which was similar to old video, which is all pretty horrifying about the violence that was happening on the steps there as the cops tried to keep a angry mob from going in and disrupting the business of government.

Do you have a solid idea of what they thought they were going to do if they all got in there?

They thought they were going to prevent the certification of the vote and then what would happen? See that's my question. They could have happened. They did disrupt the vote.

It wasn't able to happen at the moment that it was supposed to happen. But what was going to happen next in their minds?

The truth of the allegations that the election was stolen would emerge and Trump would hang on to power. They had to delay the certification to buy some more time. I think that was their thinking.

Or to do what they believed was right. I don't know. I have so many different thoughts on this and several of them are conflicting or certainly aren't just one-sided.

I'm told there's good money in approaching the world like that, but I don't care.

For instance, horrifying day of idiotic violence, needless without justification, disgusting.

Trump was delusional or got bad advice or both as all of his advisors and his kids and everybody was telling him you lost that deal with it.

It was just nutty. That's a bit of a light word. It's just incredibly ugly. On the other hand, we were never within...

We were never very close to quote-unquote losing our democracy, which is a phrase that she here slogged so often. It's become ridiculous. For reasons that I'll get into in a moment or two.

If Pence had gone along with Trump, things would have got complicated legally for a long time. I think it would have turned out okay, but it would have gotten really complicated for a long time.

Here's where it was dangerous. Since the energy of crowds, of mobs, of angry people can have real significance.

If things had gone differently worse, Trump or Pence rather had stood up and said, yes, the election was stolen knowing that it wasn't.

We need to suspend the constitution and declare martial law, then you would have had widespread crazy violence. That could have been a very delicate period in our country's history. No doubt.

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