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🗓️ 17 July 2020
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Jeff interviews Dr. Andrew Swafford on his latest study, Hebrews: The New and Eternal Covenant. Dr. Swafford shows us that by understanding the roots of liturgical worship in the old testament, we can have a deeper appreciation for the eternal sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. In this episode, Jeff and Dr.Swafford dive into the letter to the Hebrews and offer us a renewed love for the Mass.
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“We no longer imitate the heavenly liturgy, we actually share in it because Christ has reconciled heaven and earth.”
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0:00.0 | You're listening to the Jeff Caven show episode 171, Hebrews, an inside look at the mass. |
0:11.0 | Hey, I'm Jeff Cavens. How do you simplify your life? How do you study the Bible? |
0:17.0 | All the way from motorcycle trips to raising kids, we're going to talk about the faith and life in general. |
0:23.4 | It's the Jeff Kaven Show. |
0:26.3 | Well, thank you so much for joining me today. |
0:28.4 | This is going to be a special show. |
0:30.3 | I have a very special guest and perhaps you've heard of him. |
0:35.0 | Maybe you are involved in focus, maybe you're involved in, |
0:39.2 | or a graduate of Benedictine college out in |
0:42.7 | Natchess in Kansas. |
0:43.9 | Well, you'll know very well |
0:46.0 | who my guest is today and is Dr Andrew Swafford, |
0:49.5 | Dr Andrew Swafford. |
0:51.0 | But before we get to that, I want to ask you a question. Is there a book in the Bible, |
0:57.2 | Old Testament or New Testament that you really struggle with? And Leviticus doesn't count because I know you're going to |
1:04.4 | put that on the list so we'll limit it to the new testament is there a book in the |
1:08.6 | new testament that you really really struggle with well in all the years that I've been teaching when I ask people |
1:16.3 | when I ask people which book is the hardest for them to get their mind around well they say |
1:20.4 | revelation typically but there's also another one that they mention and that is |
1:24.3 | the letter to the Hebrews and the reason for that is that so much of what you encounter in the letter to the Hebrews really deals with the Old Testament and the details of the Old Testament and if you don't know those details from the Old Testament, then you are really going to struggle with the letter to the Hebrews. |
1:46.7 | One of the questions that I get so often is, how do I really understand the New Testament and specifically the Gospels and even more specifically |
1:56.7 | how do I understand the teachings of Jesus and my answer is always the same and that is you have to be acquainted with the Old Testament. |
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