Heavyweight Presents: The Messenger

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.5 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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We’re excited to share an episode from one of our favorite podcasts, Heavyweight, a new addition to the Pushkin slate of shows. Heavyweight, hosted by Jonathan Goldstein, creates space for difficult conversations and resolving long-standing regrets and unanswered questions. Balancing humor and empathy, host Jonathan Goldstein helps his subjects pinpoint the moment things went wrong and joins them on a quest to make them right. This episode features Michael, who, as a high school senior got his lucky break—the chance to star in a big-budget movie. Shooting wrapped, a premier date was set…and then he found out that his success was all based on a lie.

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0:00.0	Pushkin.
0:11.2	I'm excited to share an episode from one of my longtime favorite podcasts, Heavyweight,
0:15.6	a new addition to the Pushkin slate of shows.
0:18.7	Heavyweight is hosted by Jonathan Goldstein and creates space for difficult
0:22.3	conversations and resolving long-standing regrets and unanswered questions. Balancing humor and
0:28.1	empathy host Jonathan Goldstein helps his subjects pinpoint the moment things went wrong and joins
0:33.6	them on a quest to make them right. The episode we're sharing today features Michael, who as a high school senior got his
0:40.3	lucky break, the chance to star on a big budget movie.
0:44.1	Shooting wrap, the premiere date was set, and then he found out that his success was all based
0:48.5	on a lie.
0:50.1	Find heavyweight wherever you get your podcast.
0:55.7	Hi, dear. Hi dear.
0:56.7	Happy birthday to me.
0:59.3	Oh my God.
0:59.9	It was your birthday last week, wasn't it?
1:02.2	It's kind of why I was phoning.
1:03.5	I'm sorry, buddy.
1:04.8	It loses something when you have to call a week later to receive to get your own birthday wish from someone, you know.
1:14.6	It hurts.
1:15.5	Okay, honestly, I feel like your birthday is all that important to you.
1:18.9	Am I wrong?
1:19.9	Well, it's not as important to me as the first night of Hanukkah and the second night.
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