It's a very exciting special night for me.

The last time Frank was here I was in here, so I get to be here with you.

We're on first name basis, so it's Frank from here on in, because I don't say the last name well.

When I first heard about Frank, he's a founder of the Zen hospice.

I remember thinking to myself that if I was doing a parallel life, I would love to train

in and go that route, the depth of being in the mystery at the edge of life.

That would be a route I'd want.

And I didn't, so I dip in from different directions.

Frank is a pioneer in bringing really contemplative caregiving to the dying and training caregivers

in being with the dying.

And also in more recent incarnation with the Meta Institute that he founded, how many years

back was that?

In 2005.

2005.

Doing a tremendous number of trainings and workshops for people that are interested

in caregiving, and he'll tell you about the most exciting, most recent offering towards

the end of the evening, but I just want to on behalf of all of us, thank you for being

here.

Oh, thank you for having me.

I'm very happy to be with you.

So our format tonight is that Frank's going to basically share about some of what he's

into.

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