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Hello and welcome to another episode of The Ezra Client Show.

I am the host of The Ezra Client Show.

My name is Ezra Client.

I'm happy you're here.

And I am happy to have had this conversation this week with Heather McGee,

who is the president of Demos and Demos Action.

And Heather is a super smart thinker at the intersection of politics, race, and economics.

And to think tank, she leads, has done tremendous work around civic engagement and inequality.

And she herself has done a lot of great thinking and a lot of great research on these issues.

And this is, I think, a conversation worth listening to at this moment in our politics.

We go pretty deep on the ways in which America's racial legacy influences both the economy today

and our political system today.

We talk a lot about what Donald Trump means in this context and how to understand his rise.

Talk a lot about Heather's view that the Democratic Party has made a tremendous series of mistakes

in thinking of race as something that helps white people and hurts folks of color.

And why she thinks that is an outdated way of understanding racism.

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