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Welcome to the Eric Mataxis Show. But first two very important questions. Have you ever tried to

stack models while wearing boxing gloves? Also, did you know that miracles into radiums hate each

other? Absolutely. And now your host Eric Mataxis. Hey there folks. I think most of you did know that.

I often on this program talk to shallow, uninteresting people and usually you turn off the program

immediately. Today folks, I've got a surprise for you. I have a very exciting subject and a very

engaging guest and author. I am absolutely thrilled to be sitting here in the studio with my

phone still turned on. In the studio with my guest today, Heather McDonnell, you may know of her book,

The Diversity Delusion, the subtitle, Howrace and Gender Pandering, Corrupt the University and

undermine our culture. Heather McDonnell, I am thrilled to have you. Thanks for being here.

Eric, it is such a pleasure and honor and thank you. No, truly it is my honor. This is one of

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