Heather Hansman - The Fascinating Story of Skiing's Past, Present, & Future

Mountain & Prairie with Ed Roberson

Mountain & Prairie Media

Places & Travel, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 12 November 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Heather Hansman is a Seattle-based writer and editor, as well as the author of the excellent new book "Powder Days: Ski Bums, Ski Towns, and the Future of Chasing Snow." Longtime listeners will remember Heather's first appearance on the podcast, when we discussed her book "Downriver," one of my favorite books about the complicated subject of water in the West. Heather has an uncanny ability to distill complex, sometimes-messy topics into fun-to-read narratives that are equally educational and entertaining. And she's done it once again with "Powder Days"-- it's a thoughtful and thorough examination of ski culture, the ski industry, and the myriad of challenges that can accompany life in ski communities.

Heather was born and raised on the east coast, but headed West immediately after college, where she spent many winters living and working in ski towns throughout the Rocky Mountains. She eventually left the ski bum lifestyle behind to pursue a career in journalism but has remained closely connected to skiing and the ski culture for all of her adult life. Given her professional success as a journalist and her personal love of skiing, Heather is uniquely qualified to offer this nuanced, in-depth look at skiing and its impact on the culture, economy, and environment of mountain towns throughout the United States.

Heather and I connected a few days before "Powder Days'" publication date to talk about the book and the many important topics that it addresses. We start out discussing why she chose to write a book about the ski industry, and how the many issues and challenges facing ski communities are representative of broader issues facing the American West. We discuss the history of skiing in the United States and how the industry has grown and transformed over the past 70+ years. We discuss income inequality in ski towns, as well as the prevalence of mental health and substance abuse problems that often plague these communities. We discuss the psychological profiles of sensation-seeking skiers, the big business of skiing and ski resorts, equity in outdoor recreation, climate change's effect on skiing, and much more.

Whether you're a skier or not, I highly recommend you check out "Powder Days." It's a must-read for anyone interested in understanding the economic and social forces shaping the modern-day American West. And for more information on Heather, you can check out our first episode-- there's a link in the episode notes.

Big thanks to Heather for writing yet another wonderful book, and thanks to all of you for listening. Enjoy!

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Heather Hansman
"Powder Days" by Heather Hansman
Heather's first M&P episode
Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/heather-hansman-2/

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TOPICS DISCUSSED:

4:30 - Why Heather chose to write a book about skiing
8:00 - "Ski bum" defined
12:00 - Heather's time as a ski bum and when she decided to leave that world
15:00 - The psychological profile of obsessed skiers
18:00 - The appeal of seeking adventure in the mountains
19:40 - History of the ski industry in the US
23:00 - Changes in the business of skiing
27:00 - Extreme economic inequality in ski towns
30:30 - What is the future of economic sustainability in ski towns
33:30 -Gini coefficient and more on inequality
38:20 - Climate change and the ski industry
41:30 - Predicting the future of skiing related to climate
43:00 - Feeling that came with revisiting the ski world
45:00 - The need for ski bums to engage in the community
48:30 - Booze and mental health in mountain communities
51:20 - Goals and reasons for writing this book
55:00 - Heather's current projects
56:00 - Good books

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0:00.0	Hey everybody is Ed. Before we start I've got some podcast supporters I want to thank Scott Ruts and Stephen Slingerlin.
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0:13.0	And if you go to that site and check it out, there are a lot of different options.
0:16.0	There's monthly support options, there's one-time support options.
0:18.0	I really, really appreciate anybody who does any version of that. So thank you all very much. As far as monthly
0:25.8	support I do that through a service called Patreon and there's some different
0:29.1	benefits that come with that. I send out a monthly email kind of a behind the scenes type thing
0:34.4	towards the end of every month and I've also started doing video updates where I
0:39.0	mostly talk about different books I'm reading books that I may not have
0:42.4	recommended other
0:43.2	places and just give a little bit more commentary on them and so far people seem to
0:47.5	be enjoying it. So if you're interested in any of that I'd really appreciate it.
0:51.5	No pressure at all. Podcast podcast is free always will be but for those
0:55.3	of you who do choose to support it thank you very very much Hey, this is Ed Roberson, and this is the Mountain and Podcast, where I introduce you to some of the innovative individuals who are shaping the future of the American West.
1:18.0	I meet most of these people through my work in land conservation, or through my hobbies and interests that revolve around spending time up high in the mountains.
1:24.7	My guests include ranchers, writers, entrepreneurs, conservationists, athletes, artists, adventurers,
1:31.2	pretty much anyone who's doing important work has an interesting story and
1:35.2	loves the American West.
1:37.8	My guest today is Heather Hansman.
1:39.7	Heather is a Seattle-based writer and editor, as well as the author of the excellent new book,
1:44.3	Powder Days, Ski Bombs, Ski Towns, and The Future of Chasing Snow.
1:48.7	Long-time listeners will remember Heather's first appearance on the podcast when we talked about
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