Hey everyone, welcome to my podcast. Bravo fans. Today, I'm bringing you the woman who wrote the book on

being a bad Mormon, but is always the good time girl, real housewife of Salt Lake City star Heather Gay.

Heather sat down with us to discuss leaving the church, the dynamics between the women, and how she's

ready to find love. Let's take a listen.

I think that self-preservation is often misconstrued as kissing someone's ass. I believe it's smart, emotional intelligence to learn who you can push and who you can.

Somebody got to cue me or do I cue myself?

Che yourself.

Okay.

All right, we are back with another episode of Let's Talk Off Camera, so let's get talking.

Ever since we interviewed Oprah, I can't stop saying it with my Oprah voice.

I love the Oprah voice.

I mean, it just gives and gives. I can watch that social media clip over and over again of her talking about it.

Let me tell you something very rarely. Not since Lola Consuelos have I gotten that much feedback from people I know listening to my podcast.

And what was the feedback?

They just loved her.

And it's so funny.

These are people who are our peers.

Yeah.

And they had forgotten Oprah's origin story.

So, Jan, good on you and good on your sons for not knowing Oprah other than Oprah the billionaire

because people in our group who should know better have forgotten.

And if you miss that episode, Albert does an excellent Oprah impersonation himself.

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