Sissies? This week we wanted to share something special. A clip from another

podcast we're loving right now from ABC and Good Morning America called

Pop Culture Moms. Andy and Sabrina have been best friends for 20 years and pop culture aficionados for even longer.

On pop culture moms, the toddler moms are taking their obsession with reality TV and movies

to the next level by talking to celebrities, writers, and fellow

scholars of pop culture about what they can learn from the fictional moms they love most.

Together, Andy and Sabrina explore the comedy and tragedy of what

parenthood is like in real life. In this episode real housewife star Heather

Gay talks about why she relates to the Barbie movie and how she herself broke out of the boxes she was placed in.

Oh, what a gay icon! Receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots.

Okay, here comes the clip.

If you like it, we hope you'll click the link in our episode description or search pop culture moms

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It makes me cry right now because, you know, I kept saying like I'm doing this for my daughters, you know, to give them options, to give them other ways to do it and you realize just like in the movie with America

prayer like we're doing it for ourselves and then that's the reward is to see

them develop and become who they are going to be the people they're going to be

without context of a

pre-assigned role or what a definition of beauty, a definition of success, a definition of identity, that they, you know, that was really has been prescribed to a lot of us, you know, as women growing up, but like for them, they have the independence and freedom to just make their own way. And I love that so much.

That's like so we'll see friends now like and even like my fellow house

wives like and I'm just like hi Barbie and it's like just saying hi Barbie to women I love it feels like that's what we're saying

is like Barbie can be an astronaut Barbie can be the president we have

potential that exceeds even our own imaginations.

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