This week I wanted to share something special. It's a clip from another podcast that we're absolutely loving.

It's from ABC and Good Morning America and it's called pop culture bombs.

Andi and Sabrina have been best friends for over 20 years and pop culture

aficionados for even longer. On pop culture moms, the toddler moms are

taking their obsession with TV and movies to the next level by talking

to celebrities, writers, and fellow scholars of pop culture about what they can learn from the

fictional moms they love the most.

Together Andy and Sabrina explore the comedy and tragedy of what

parenthood is like in real life.

In this episode, Real Housewife star Heather Gay talks about why she relates to the Barbie movie and how she herself broke out of the box she was placed in.

Okay so here comes a clip. If you like it, I hope you'll click the link in our episode

description or search pop culture moms while you're listening and follow along for more.

It makes me cry right now because you know I kept saying like I'm doing this for my

daughters you know to give them options to give them other ways to do it and you realize just like in the movie with America Frera like we're doing it for ourselves and then that's the reward is to see them develop and become who they are going to be the people they're going to be without

Context of a pre-assigned role or what a definition of beauty a definition of success a definition of beauty, a of success, a definition of identity

that they, you know, that was really

has been prescribed to a lot of us, you know,

as women growing up, but like for them,

they have the independence and freedom

to just make their own way and I love that so much.

That's like so we'll see I'll see friends now like and even like my fellow housewives like and I'm just like

hi Barbie and it's like just saying

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