I think that self-preservation is often misconstrued as kissing someone's ass.

I believe it's smart, emotional intelligence to learn who you can push and who you can.

Somebody got to cue me or do I cue myself?

To yourself.

Okay.

All right, we are back with another episode of Let's Talk Off Camera, so let's get talking.

Ever since we interviewed Oprah, I can't stop saying it with my Oprah voice.

I love the Oprah voice.

I mean, it just gives and gives.

I can watch that social media clip over and over again of her talking about it.

Let me tell you something very rarely. Not since Lola Consuelos have I gotten that much feedback from

people I know listening to my podcast. And what was the feedback? They just loved her and it's so funny.

These are people who are our peers.

Yeah. And they had forgotten Oprah's origin story. So, Jan, good on you and good on your sons for not

knowing Oprah other than Oprah the billionaire. Because people in our group who should know better have forgotten.

And if you miss that episode, Albert does an excellent Oprah impersonation himself.

He does.

But shocking.

I didn't know that Albert also does a great Andy Cohen, which I just heard.

You do. I should listen to this going on.

It's all this chatter.

Kelly!

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