People become heroes by putting one foot in front of the other.

Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, I'm going to save humanity today.

They wake up and they say, I'm going to keep breathing long enough to get breakfast on the table for my toddler.

And then I'm going to go to work.

And then I'm going to do the next right thing.

We've got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from Red, Wine, and Blue.

Hi, I'm Amanda Weinstein, and you're listening to the Suburban Women Problem.

We'll be back next week with a new season of regular episodes, but before that, we wanted to share a conversation between red, white, and blue founder, Katie Paris, and our favorite historian, Heather Cox Richardson.

Last month, the City Club of Cleveland here in Ohio

hosted an event with Heather and Katie.

Heather's words were a warning about how we're

on the knife edge of authoritarianism.

But as usual, her words were also full of hope

about what regular people like us can do to keep our democracy. I love to hear conversations, any conversation with Heather Cox Richardson.

She has a way of grounding what's going on now with real events of history

and what people were doing, not just our presidents.

And I love the pairing of Heather Cox Richardson with Katie to talk about what we can do to move our democracy forward, to protect our democracy, and to protect this nation.

So enjoy this live conversation from the City Club.

And we'll see you again next week for the premiere of the new season of the Suburban Women Problem.

Good afternoon. And welcome to the City Club of Cleveland, where we are devoted to conversations

of consequence that helped democracy thrive. Our guest today, Heather Cox Richardson,

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