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Heated Rhetoric (And Deranged People With Guns) Are Making Politics Dangerous

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.43.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Other than political brinksmanship, the fraying of societal norms, an ocean of bad information, and nearly unchecked gun ownership, how have we arrived at this moment in which people think the way to settle an election is with an assault rifle? Mike is in Miluakee for the RNC, and he will explain. Also, we are joined by Abby Kiesa, Deputy Director at Tufts University's Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement (CIRCLE), to talk about why young people vote—or, more likely, don't vote—and why it's so hard to study. Plus, the upending of the 2024 election. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at [email protected] To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist Subscribe: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's Monday, July 15th from Peach Fish Productions, it's the gist I'm Mike Pesca.

0:09.0

And this is not the boldest of predictions, but I am going to predict that the verb upends will be

0:15.6

applied to the 2024 election more than any other election prior. Felony conviction upends election.

0:24.4

Debate performance up ends election.

0:28.1

Bad interview afterwards upends election.

0:30.5

Assassination upends election. Judge Eileen Cannon's ruling upends election.

0:36.3

Eileen Cannon threw out the documents case against Donald Trump based on the theory

0:42.4

that Jack Smith was an unconstitutionally appointed special prosecutor.

0:48.0

No constitutional scholar that I know of, left, right, or certainly center agrees with this decision, but you know what happened?

0:56.5

The signal was given.

0:58.2

The signal was interpreted.

1:00.4

Justice Thomas clearly said that he was open to this interpretation.

1:05.0

I do not know if the other five Republican appointed justices are.

1:10.0

They will get to rule on it eventually, but by that time it will of course be too late.

1:16.5

It would seem, and if you were to argue that in this moment of national shock and to some depolarization if the opportunity was seized and forced through

1:29.1

I'm just saying that that narrative might not exactly fit with what's going on, but sometimes something

1:34.8

feels so right that it becomes right.

1:38.4

And so here we are.

1:40.2

But where is here?

1:41.2

I am in Milois- K. Algonquin for the good land, as Alice Cooper taught us in

1:47.1

Wayne's world. I am at the RNC. So far I've already seen a one-car crash into a pretty clearly marked stanchion after 20 cops descended on the guy with guns drawn and he was pulled from the car

2:00.8

One cop and this will tell you how the thing all shook out, said to another,

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