The year is 1995 and she's got a great podcast!

The movie, Heat.

Hello everyone and welcome to unspoiled!

I'm Amy Nicholson and I am Paul Sheer and this is the show where we are trying to find the 100 best movies ever made and when we do we're sending them to outer space.

Outer space baby!

Outer space and Amy right now we are nearing the end of our villains section of our hero and villains mini series.

So much so that now our heroes and villains are actually equally weighted. We are in a movie right now where I mean you could make an argument that it's a movie about a bad guy or an argument that the movie is about a good guy.

Or a guy who's good and bad and another guy who's good and bad. Kind of like the two of us man.

That is us. By the way speaking of us I was sent a tweet today very officially in the mail and I opened it up and it was an article about how the divide between critics and fans have been widening and someone said I would love to hear your opinion on this because you do a show with a critic and you're a fan and never thought of us as that but then I also thought what a great conversation point here for us to have because what do you think about that?

I mean I think that people always put critics in this like sphere like they're not fans.

Yeah yeah we're what antagonists or getting paid off to right positive pieces or negative pieces. What if what is everybody frothing about over there in Zack Snyderland?

I think that the best critics are fans is a tough word that is actually another thing you had I can I have the hardest time calling myself a fan of anything it's very hard I can be a fan of things that aren't related to the world of movies.

I'm a fan of boys to men that's like very easy for me to say I'm a fan of pit bull also much easier for me to say I allowed than it probably should be.

But when it comes to actors and stuff I'm more like I'm a champion in admirer but fan makes me uncomfortable and I don't know why that is.

That's really interesting is it because you're in it too much or you get paid to be critical about it no I mean because there is an element I imagine like I don't know how much of an NBA fan you are if you're playing in the NBA like you love the players you love the game but you're not enjoying it like a fan because you're in it.

Is that like a part of it I mean you have to be critical on some level every movie that you are watching for the most part you have to be thinking about it on a level that is going to be deeper than most people will think about something.

Yeah you know it's sort of like we critics have to approach movies holding to almost contradictory things in our mind we have to ideally be really familiar with the cast the actors you know the actors the filmmakers maybe even the cinematographer the writer the director kind of know their body of work.

And yet despite all that knowledge approach this film with a very even blank slate and I don't even just mean like a quentin Tarantino film or voting feel sort of like heated up about like am I going to like it or am I going to just like it.

I mean Adam Sandler movie on Netflix like can you put your baggage down even though you spent your career collecting all of this baggage that you would have all of the baggage so you know all of the baggage can you put it down and hit play on this movie.

And just appreciate this movie for what it is way it for what it is very neutrally so I think that's why I'm afraid of the word fan as I feel like carrying it with me would make me feel as though I'm rooting too hard for the movie to be good.

I appreciate that I have to put it I have to put it down in order to just be like.

Introduce yourself to me movie but with the widest possible open heart nothing cynical if I can help it in the slightest.

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