Welcome to the CLS experience. I'm your host, Craig Siegel. I'm a born and raised New Yorker

who achieved success with multiple businesses, but I crave something deeper. So I dedicated

myself to personal growth and transformation by revamping my mindset. I went from being unable

to run a mile to conquering four marathons the following year. Now, I want to help others

manufacture big breakthroughs of their own. Did you have more fun personally as a face or as a

heel? And to the audience, that might not be not be known like as a good guy or a bad guy

Oh definitely a bad guy

It's easier because it's hard to get the fans to like you especially when you're starting out and

Being a bad guy you know insulting the fans and insulting the other wrestlers

It's just so much easier and and you can be a person that you're not.

You know, you can pretend to be this complete a-hold and, you know, just crap on everybody and tell everybody their city sucks and, you know, the rest of it, you're wrestling sucks.

And, you know, it's just a lot easier than having the fans accept you as a good guy.

And that's hard work.

And once you get that acceptance, you got it forever.

I mean, whether you turn face or heel, you can go back and forth.

The fans are still going to love you deep down.

But you have to earn their respect eventually.

On today's episode of the CLS experience of a very special treat,

he's an Olympic gold medalist and a legendary WWNTNA Hall of Fame wrestler

with numerous titles and accolades in both organizations, no big deal.

He persevered winning gold despite numerous injuries, including a broken freaking neck, becoming a national

sensation, and rightfully so. His path was filled with personal difficulties, obstacles, and hurdles

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