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The Trauma Therapist

Heart, Soul and Guts with Adena Bank Lees, LCSW

The Trauma Therapist

Guy Crawford Macpherson

Mental Health, Alternative Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.5579 Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Adena Bank Lees, LCSW, LIAC, BCETS, CP is a licensed clinical social worker, licensed addiction counselor, board-certified expert in traumatic stress, and certified practitioner of psychodrama with more than 35 years of experience.

A recognized authority on childhood trauma, Adena specializes in covert emotional incest — a form of hidden abuse she also knows personally, as a thriver with a lived history of childhood sexual abuse and covert emotional incest.

Adena is the author of Covert Emotional Incest: The Hidden Sexual Abuse, A Story of Hope and Healing (updated and revised edition), which includes over 100 pages of new content for clinicians featuring case vignettes, ethical treatment examples, and consultation guidelines. When she's not in the therapy room or training room, you'll find her laughing with loved ones, singing at the top of her lungs in the car, or soaking up time in nature.

In this Episode:

Adena on Linkedin

Adena@adenabankleese.com

Covert Emotional Incest Scale

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Trauma Therapist podcast.

0:02.5

My name is Guy McPherson.

0:04.1

I interview incredible people who've dedicated their lives to helping those who've been impacted by trauma.

0:10.2

A big thank you to our sponsors and our guests who are supporting this show.

0:14.8

Five, four, three, two, and one.

0:18.3

Our folks, welcome back to the podcast.

0:20.2

Very excited to have back. A favorite guest

0:23.3

of the show, Abina Bank, Lee's. Adina, welcome. Thank you so much. Thanks, Guy. I'm excited to be

0:28.6

talking with you today. Awesome. Adina is a licensed clinical social worker, licensed addiction counselor,

0:35.3

board certified expert in traumatic stress, and certified practitioner

0:38.7

of psychodrama with more than 35 years of experience. A recognized authority on childhood trauma,

0:44.4

Adina specializes in covert emotional incest. A form of hidden abuse, she also knows personally,

0:50.2

as a thriver with a lived history of childhood sexual abuse and covert emotional incest.

0:55.8

Adina is the author of Covert Emotional Incess, The Hidden Sexual Abuse, a Story of Hope and Healing,

1:02.1

recently updated and revised, which includes over 100 pages of new content for clinicians

1:07.2

featuring case vignettes, ethical treatment examples, and consultation guidelines.

1:13.0

When she's not in the therapy room or training room, you'll find her laughing with loved

1:16.2

ones singing at the top of her lungs in the car.

1:18.7

We're still coming up time in there.

1:20.0

All right, let's go.

1:20.8

Let's hear some of the singing.

1:22.2

I was like reading this.

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