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The Documentary Podcast

Heart and Soul: Queer and Christian in Kenya

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to be a gay Christian in a country where many Church leaders say your sexuality is wicked and even demonic? In 2013, a group of LGBT Christians in Kenya started meeting for Sunday worship, to practice their faith free from homophobia. The community grew and became Kenya’s first openly queer-affirming Church - a sanctuary for diverse believers who feel excluded from mainstream religious spaces. But with calls for new laws to further curtail the rights of LGBT Kenyans, and increasingly open homophobia and anti-gay protests, this sanctuary may be in jeopardy. While some members consider returning to the closet, others are determined to protect their sacred space, come what may.

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You're listening to the documentary from the BBC World Service.

0:27.0

I'm Esther Ogola in Kenya for Hat and Soul, which explores personal approaches to spirituality from around the world.

0:35.0

It's a Sunday and I'm in the car on my way to church and I know all over Kenya people are doing the same.

0:42.0

Like most people in this country I'm a

0:45.0

Christian but this week it's not my normal church that I'm attending. I'm going

0:49.3

to a congregation where they are doing things radically different.

0:55.0

In this episode, a spiritual sanctuary and a threat.

1:02.0

I'm meeting the leaders of what might be Kenya's fast, openly

1:05.6

queer affirming church as they contemplate new challenges to their existence.

1:10.0

Hi, how are you?

1:11.0

Thank you. Oh, it's so good to see you again.

1:14.0

Nice to see you.

1:15.0

For safety reasons, I can't tell you what this church is called or even where it is.

1:19.0

So in this episode, I'll refer to it as the Pride Church. What I can't tell you is that almost

1:25.6

everyone here is LGBT Q which means most mainstream churches here in Kenya

1:30.0

would reject form.

1:31.0

B mainstream churches say being queer is an abomination.

1:35.8

Every time I went to church I just had to like fear this homophobic rhetoric from people

1:41.2

and it was so hateful at the same time they're calling themselves Christians.

1:45.0

Kenya is a socially conservative country and growing up have seen queer folk

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