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The Documentary Podcast

Heart and Soul: Moscow vicar returns home

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

The Rev Malcolm Rogers has been in charge of the most extraordinary church.  St Andrews looks like an ordinary British Victorian church, but amazingly it’s just ten minutes from the heart of power in Russia, the Kremlin.   His flock includes local Russian people but also many English speaking ex-pats and members of Moscow's international community. This would have been an unusual posting at any time, but he’s been there during a remarkable period. It included the diplomatic dispute over the Salisbury poisonings, the Football World Cup staged in Russia, the Covid Pandemic and now the war in Ukraine.  It has put him in a sensitive situation at times, but it has also helped him to understand how the world is seen through Russian eyes.

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0:06.2

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0:11.3

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0:15.2

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0:16.2

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0:22.2

If you had to draw a church and you were a child, this is exactly what you would draw,

0:32.0

is a big tower in the west end, then a body of the church towards the east end, with

0:38.8

arched windows, quite gothic in style, and made of red brick.

0:44.8

It is literally an off-the-shelf Manchester 19th-century church, I say literal because when there

0:52.4

was a competition, the architect submitted one of his plans for a church I think that had

1:00.2

already been built, two examples of which can be found in Manchester or Blackburn.

1:07.1

But this isn't the north-west of England, it's Russia, and that was an Anglican vicar

1:12.1

who for six years has been the Church of England's man in Moscow, surely one of the most

1:17.4

extraordinary postings for any Anglican priest, St Andrew's Church, is just a short walk

1:23.0

from the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin's seat of power.

1:27.1

You're listening to the documentary on the BBC World Service, I'm Bob Walker, and in

1:31.6

this edition of Heart and Soul, which examines personal stories of spirituality, we're hearing

1:37.2

from the Reverend Cannon, Malcolm Rogers, and his wife, Alison.

1:41.4

She'd been ministering to a multinational congregation and maintaining a connection between

1:46.6

believers in Russia and the West during an escalating international crisis.

1:52.7

It's about 9 o'clock in the evening, and there's lots of people outside, probably just finished

1:57.3

a concert, so we're wondering, oh no, it sounds like there is still a concert on.

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