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The Documentary Podcast

Heart and Soul: I joined the Taliban after they kept me hostage

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Bara’atu Ibrahim speaks to Jibra’il Omar, formerly Timothy Weeks; an Australian educator who was held captive for three years in Afghanistan by the Taliban. However Jibra’il Omar made news six years ago, after he converted to Islam whilst in captivity and astonishingly became a full-fledged member of the Taliban after his release. For some months, Bara’atu built up a relationship with Jibra’il over a messaging service whilst he was in Kabul. She spoke to him on two occasions, where he shared his story and gives the reasons of why he decided it was right for him to become a Muslim and moreover celebrate with his captors once they came back into power.

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0:00.0

Hi, Namulanta Kombo here with some very exciting news.

0:04.0

Dear Daughter is back for a new series.

0:07.0

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0:11.0

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0:15.0

the BBC World Service. Find it wherever you get your BBC podcast.

0:28.0

Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. I am Barat to Ibrahim, and on this episode of Heart and Soul which explores personal stories of faith from around the world.

0:34.0

You will hear the story of Jibra Il Omar, formerly Timothy Weeks.

0:39.0

He was an Australian educator who was held captive for three years in Afghanistan by the Taliban. an member of the Taliban after his release. Over the past couple of months, I built a relationship with Jibrail via messaging services.

0:58.0

Eventually, he agreed to speak to me on the record on two occasions.

1:02.0

Jibrail was in Afghanistan to teach in the University of Kabul.

1:06.0

And three weeks after I arrived I was asked to teach a substitute class.

1:12.0

So on the third class... teach a substitute class.

1:13.0

So on the third class that I taught,

1:16.6

when I finished it, I was 20 seconds outside of the campus

1:21.5

and we were you know attacked if we were taken hostage in a very violent

1:28.4

manner. What circumstances then led to your kidnapping or your captivity.

1:34.0

The Taliban had been publicly saying that unless they took these Western teachers out of the country,

1:42.0

that they would attack the university and they would not be held responsible for what they did.

1:46.1

They started making these threats before you came in to take the job.

1:49.7

2016, there is a institution I suppose you call it in the US it's a government institution

1:57.1

it's called the special investigator for Afghan reconstruction and they issued a report in March with obviously I hasn't read that said

2:05.7

you know the AUAF needs to step up on its security that its security is nowhere

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