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David, we've had the opportunity to use our Nord accounts in the last couple of weeks.

As someone who hasn't had an overwhelming experience with using virtual networks,

I'm really enjoying being able to use my Nord account.

And I think that with someone such as yourself with a background in it, it's proven to be really, really important to you.

Well, yeah, i used to work

in web for a number of years and in fact that was my interest in web that made me start a podcast you know

and get interested know the new things you could do uh and therefore internet security's always

been something that that i take a special interest in because i think that most people now cammy i do so

much of my life is online and so much of it is important stuff like banking and whatnot.

So it really is important to me to know that I'm using something that's quite safe and that I'm making sure my details are as safe as they can be.

Because I've had the thing in the past where, you know know I've had to change bank cards and it's a pain in the neck and you know takes ages to get reset so I'm keen to avoid that any way that I can and especially we using things like public Wi-Fi networks which you know hackers That's the kind of places hackers go to. So

knowing that I just need to flip on the NordVPN and I'm safe and protected is huge. It will

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