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This Jungian Life Podcast

Hearing Voices

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2018

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The standard psychiatric understanding of auditory hallucinations is that they are a symptom of serious mental illness, and ought to be treated with antipsychotic medication, but could there other ways of understanding this phenomenon? Can such symptoms ever have meaning in their own right? We explore whether voices could sometimes be the psyche's attempt to heal itself. In the show, we mention the Hearing Voices Network.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:03.0

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,

0:09.0

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:17.0

I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia.

0:22.0

I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

0:27.0

I'm Deborah Stewart, a youngian analyst on Cape Cod.

0:31.0

And today we are going to sift through the various possible meanings of hearing

0:38.0

voices. So my first clinical experience of this phenomena of hearing voices came to me when I was in one of my internships and I was working in a psychiatric hospital.

0:49.0

And hearing voices is, apparently, one of the most common signs and symptoms of people who are going into a psychotic state and that the voices have a profound amount of independence.

1:06.9

They seem to come from a very different kind of personality structure inside of the person.

1:13.0

They often give them commands.

1:16.0

They're often relentless.

1:18.3

Subsequent to that experience where the hearing voices is so problematic to the person and really interfering

1:25.8

with their ability to feel safe often as well as feeling grounded.

1:30.3

Over the years I have had clients come in and confess that hearing voices is actually a

1:38.1

normal part of how they experience themselves, how they solve problems, and how they move through the world.

1:45.8

How they experience themselves or how they experience something other, something external coming in to them.

1:55.0

It seems to me that's a crucial difference.

1:57.0

It is.

1:58.0

What I find is that sometimes people will characterize the voices in a kind of spiritual or mediumistic paradigm

2:09.0

and they can often comfortably hold the phenomena of hearing voices as if they are outside beings

2:17.5

or personalities that are communicating to them and whether or not it's distressing often has to do with the content.

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