Hear Me Out: Trump Voters Are Not Delusional

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🗓️ 9 January 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… delusion is not the solution. Welcome to a presidential election year, where everyone will surely be cool and normal. We know, we know — the prospect of dealing with electoral discourse is one that most of us aren’t looking forward to. But we’re here to prove that it’s possible to talk. For Democrats, and liberals writ large, it’s hard to understand why anyone would want another Trump presidency; and it’s tempting to chalk that desire up to delusion, idiocy, or gullibility. But is that a good-faith assumption? Author and professor Frank Buckley joins us to defend the 2024 Trump voter — as someone who earnestly believes the other side is worse. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: [email protected] Podcast production by Maura Currie. You can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/hearmeoutplus for just $15 a month for your first three months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is Hear Me Out. I'm Celeste Henley. Welcome to a presidential election year.
0:06.0	If that statement makes your blood run cold, you are not alone.
0:10.0	We know it's hard to have political discussions they often get heated and in
0:13.9	2024 it's going to be hard to avoid those conversations but we are dedicated to
0:19.1	showing you that it is possible to get heated without getting disrespectful or giving up on the conversation entirely and walking away in disgust.
0:28.2	So today we present a defense of the Trump voter.
0:32.3	It's so easy for Democrats and liberals more broadly
0:35.2	to assume the other side is all fascists or idiots or they're misled.
0:39.9	And whichever those three is the case for you or someone you know, it's often assumed
0:45.0	that Trump voters are irredeemable, that they're not worth talking to.
0:48.5	Our guest today wants you to think again.
0:50.9	There are no surprises here.
0:52.3	It's not the case that the right is simply
0:54.1	stupid or essentially a fascist. Like we know all the negative stuff and yet we think
0:59.4	the left is worse. Frank Buckley, author and foundation professor at George Mason University, joins us in just a moment.
1:06.5	Stay with us.
1:10.5	Before we get started, we want to say a special hello to those of you who are listening on Slate Plus.
1:16.0	We really appreciate your support.
1:18.0	If you want to join the club and support the work we do at Hear Me Out, that's great news. Slate Plus is easy to join and there are a ton of perks.
1:28.1	You get to listen to Hear Me Out and all your favorite slate shows totally add free.
1:32.3	And you'll be able to read all of slate without a paywall.
1:36.2	Plus, again, you are helping support the show.
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