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Slate Debates

Hear Me Out: Less Porn, More Sex Tapes

Slate Debates

Slate Podcasts

Society & Culture, News

4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… let’s get it on. Whether you watch porn or not — admit it, or not — adult entertainment shapes the way we think about sex, gender, and power. Our guest today argues that porn is an industry, but it’s also a genre, and it’s much closer to fantasy than it is to reality. But if we abandoned porn and replaced it with watching real people have real sex, we might not just shake off taboos; we might also become better lovers, and better people, too. Cindy Gallop, CEO of MakeLoveNotPorn, joins us. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: [email protected] Podcast production by Maura Currie You can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/hearmeoutplus for just $15 a month for your first three months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Hear Me Out.

0:03.0

I'm Celeste Headley.

0:04.3

There's that famous phrase about obscenity and pornography.

0:07.5

It's hard to define, but you know it when you see it.

0:10.6

Horn is a complicated part of our society.

0:12.7

Ubiquitous, yes, but also very, very stigmatized.

0:17.4

And the adult entertainment industry is constantly being rocked by technological advances, legal

0:23.2

changes, and ethical whistle blowing.

0:26.6

While you watch porn or not, admit to it or not, it impacts the way we all think about

0:32.2

sex, and gender, and power.

0:35.2

So what if we changed the way we approach porn, sex, and love?

0:39.2

Could thinking differently about this stuff make society better?

0:44.3

I am socializing, normalizing, and destigmatizing sex in order to promote consent, communication,

0:51.6

sexual values, and behavior, and to act as literally sex education through real world

0:57.0

demonstration?

0:58.6

Cindy Gallup, CEO of Make Love, not porn, joins us in just a moment.

1:03.3

Stay with us.

1:05.3

Welcome back to Hear Me Out.

1:10.0

I'm Celeste Headley.

1:11.3

And in case you couldn't tell from our intro, today's episode will discuss adult themes.

1:16.7

There will be adult language, so listen or discretion is advised.

1:24.1

We started the show today talking about the P word, but our guest today actually draws

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