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Hi guys and welcome back to Unite Therapy.

I am your host, Kat, and happy you guys are here. If you're new, welcome. If you are not new,

welcome back. It is the week of Christmas. And if you are somebody who celebrates that holiday,

then you may be feeling a lot of things. You may be stressed. You excited you may be like wait i'm not ready i know

i'm one of those people who would love this month to drag out as long as possible because i just like

the energy comes with december so i'm a little bit sad when it gets to the actual holiday i think

that also might have to do with some of my 7ness of i i like looking forward to events a little bit more

than the actual events sometimes anyway we're here just wanted to acknowledge that i hope everybody is

doing the best they can which i just assume everybody is anyway when it comes to holidays in a pandemic

you know you thought you only have to go through one and we have gotten the treat of we actually

are going to get to go through

all of them so anyway all in that to say we have a great episode i have a friend and a fellow

therapist cammy on to talk about shame so cammy is somebody i met working a while ago at a treatment

center which i feel like i talk about it all the time.

I promise that it's not where I meet all my friends. So Cammy and I met at a treatment center

that we both worked in and we have kept in touch. She is now a private practice therapist in

Franklin and she sees people virtually as well. So if you live anywhere in Tennessee, you can see her. But she comes on today and we talk about all the things shame. I don't want to say too much because I think the conversation does all of the good stuff. But I think you're going to be very surprised in the sense that a lot of times shame is just this bad, bad, bad, bad thing that nobody wants to touch. And there's some power and feeling some shame. So in this conversation, we get to talk about the difference between healthy shame and

toxic shame, how to use healthy shame and how to kind of move away from the toxic shame. I am so

grateful for Cammy doing this. And I think you guys are going to love just her heart and all of the

things that she has to say. If you are like, wow, that girl sounds like somebody that I can relate to.

You can find her at alongsidehealing.com or you can find her on Instagram.

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