Kevin DeYoung offers some advice for parents who demand a standard of their children that they don't live themselves.

The easiest way, the best way to produce Pharisees, is to be a Pharisee.

I mean, to be a parent with this hypocrisy or with this huge gap between what you say and insist upon and what you actually do in your life.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast for Friday, September 5th, 2014.

Ask anyone how they're doing, and you'll likely hear, busy.

Pastor Kevin DeYoung talked about our level of busyness earlier this week.

He's been talking with Nancy Lee DeMoss this week about his book, Crazy Busy.

Yesterday, we got Kevin's wife, Trisha, into the conversation. She's a busy mom of a young

family, and I know her perspective was helpful. Trisha and Kevin talked about the value of family

devotions even during busy seasons of life. We stopped part way through that conversation yesterday,

and today we'll hear part two.

Here's Nancy.

So, Trisha, what are some of the ways practically in the course of your life as a mom, that you're trying to cultivate an environment that is conducive to your children, growing, spiritually learning to love the Lord growing up in grace what are

if we were to come and visit your house apart from the chaos we've talked about that

what would be some of the things we might see you and Kevin doing to try and cultivate that

atmosphere of grace I mean the simplest is is just to read the Bible or to read I mean

there's a lot of good story Bibles, too, I feel like.

So how do you guys do that? You've got kids 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 and newborn?

Yes. What does it look like for you guys? I feel like I just bought a new storybook Bible so I could have some fresh material. We've kind of done the Jesus storybook Bible, and we got another one, the big picture.

And I, so I think sometimes, I mean, evening time right before bed is a nice time.

It's also nice that I have the older kids who are three older kids in school.

So there's times in the day where I have just two of them and

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