Imagine sweeping through green fields, floating five feet above ground, sun on your face as you

slide by on track to your

there.

this is not a care in the world as you simply lean back.

And before you know it, you're there.

This is how travels should feel,

and on our trains it does.

Avanti West Coast feel good travel. You're listening to me, Liz Earl, and on today's wellness show I am delighted to be joined by a fellow well-being foodie Dale Pinock, otherwise known as the medicinal chef, who is the absolute master of taking our health and well-being into our own hands

to feel fabulous through the foods we eat right up our streets my dear listeners am I right so welcome Dale thank you for having me

it's great to have you here for this for ages well that's a great thrill and you know we are

definitely talking the same language why the chef? How did that come about?

Because that's quite unique, isn't it really?

It is. I mean, it's a deliberately provocative title as well,

but I just want people to think differently about food, that's more than just fuel it has the capacity to drastically influence our health

And we can actually engage in that process so that's where it came from and you are aren't you? I mean you are a real

Boffin in this area. I've been doing this a while actually yeah. Not only that it's

not about longevity it's you have. Yes I did my various things my first degree

was human nutrition first degree was human nutrition.

Second degree was herbal medicine.

Not that I necessarily wanted to be a herbalist, but I was getting really fascinated with plant

biochemistry and how that interacts with our physiology. And my post-grad was nutritional medicine at the University of Surrey.

So you are very much evidence-based, not into fads. Not into fads at all and you know

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