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Hi, I'm Nora McNerney, and this is thanks for asking the call-in- show about what matters to you. And you know what matters to everybody? Health care. Health care matters to everybody. And here in America, health insurance has to matter to everybody because it's hard to get the former without the ladder. And honestly, it's hard to get the former, even with the ladder sometimes. I am convinced, and it will be hard to convince

me otherwise, I'm convinced that health insurance, medical health insurance here in the United

States is a scam. In fact, I know to my bones that it is a scam. I'm going to lay out,

you know, an example that is relatively low stakes, just to illustrate this. For years, my family and I had a Blue Cross Blue Shield plan.

This was through the Writers Guild of America, which is a union that I'm a part of. It is amazing

insurance. But when you are on COBRA, when you don't

hit like, you know, the union minimum income level to like be on that really good insurance,

you get that really good insurance for a lot of money through COBRA. It was several thousand

dollars a month, but our premium was for a family of six, but it was really, really good insurance.

And, you know, some of those years we like really, really used it. And still we had the same

amount of headaches as like the average person, right? Like hospitalizations, mental health

care, we would be fighting, fighting to get things covered. But in one of those years where

it was definitely worth it to have this insurance, or it felt worth it to have this insurance,

oh my God, listen, I even put it that way. But even when it felt like this was good insurance,

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