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Welcome to The Best Things Since Sliced Bread, a podcast from BBC Radio 4.

I'm Greg Foote, and this series is all about separating marketing hype from hard science.

I'm joined again by my special guest from episode five, blurbases turned cheese enthusiast

Alex James. Thanks so much for sticking around. Hey Greg, cheers. In the previous app, we chatted about

cheese, and we looked at the almost mythical status of the fermented tea sensation that is kombucha.

It's said to offer everything from giving you better gut health to making you happier. This pod, though, is all about another wonder drink,

the new coffee substitute for the health-conscious, golden-colored turmeric lattes.

I hear turmeric is particularly popular in the Cotswolds, Alex, where you live.

It's very big with Adels for the Mummies, yeah.

My kids have totally got into it.

And I think the marketing genius of turmeric shots is the shots bit.

But my wife's been encouraging the kids to drink them,

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