Healing the Wounds of Complex Religious Trauma with Jenny Winkel
Transforming Trauma
Brad Kammer
4.6 • 141 Ratings
🗓️ 5 August 2020
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
"NARM is not a protocol, it's a relational model, and the reason why that's important to know is because humans are designed to heal in relationship." ~ Jenny Winkel
Our host Sarah Buino is joined by Jenny Winkel, MA, LMT, SEP, and NARM Practitioner based in Salt Lake City, Utah. Within her private practice, Jenny works with many forms of Complex Trauma (C-PTSD), with a particular interest in religious trauma.
Throughout the episode, they discuss how the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) can lead to a greater understanding of the complexities of religious trauma, a form of trauma that is often misunderstood, minimized, or dismissed. Jenny shares that NARM is so well-suited for healing religious trauma because of how well the model holds complexity.
Her affinity for the NARM approach came out of her journey to heal her own complex and religious trauma.
Sarah and Jenny discuss what fundamentalist religion looks like, and the impacts it often has on individuals. Through her own experiences, as well as her clients, Jenny shares how she has come to understand that fundamentalist communities and families can be sources of comfort, refuge, and love, while also being sources of terror and trauma.
Jenny champions NARM for its ability to restore autonomy, agency, and reestablish the foundational relationship to Self. "When you work with a wise and seasoned [NARM] therapist or practitioner, you can feel that... they're not taking sides," she says. "They're helping you navigate that interiority." The episode concludes with a story from Jenny's practice, a beautiful example of the mind-body connection and the healing power of NARM in addressing complex attachment wounds.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Transforming Trauma Podcast, a complex trauma podcast through the NARM Training Institute. |
| 0:11.5 | My name is Sarah Boino, and I'm so excited to be sharing today's interview with you. |
| 0:19.2 | The NARM Training Institute has a very special announcement. Thanks to all your interest in learning more about NARM Training Institute has a very special announcement. |
| 0:22.6 | Thanks to all your interest in learning more about NARM, we're launching the online NARM |
| 0:26.9 | Basics Training, an online training for transforming trauma. |
| 0:30.6 | This new level one training in the neuro-effective relational model is for professionals working with complex trauma. |
| 0:36.6 | The intention of this online training is to make it more accessible to learn NARM. |
| 0:41.3 | We know that during this time of COVID-19, live professional trainings are just not an option. |
| 0:46.3 | But even before this global crisis, many of you told us that you had difficulties traveling to come learn NARM, |
| 0:51.3 | getting time off work, or affording the full NARM practitioner training. Despite these obstacles, many of you still wanted to learn NARM. If this |
| 0:58.5 | rings true, then this online training is for you. This professional training is designed to support |
| 1:03.4 | those of you working with clients or populations dealing with complex trauma, which with COVID |
| 1:08.4 | in its aftermath includes many of us. This training is for mental health professionals, as well as helping professionals such as nurses, |
| 1:16.6 | doctors, other health care providers, educators, substance abuse counselors, coaches, body workers, and more. |
| 1:24.6 | Participants will learn more about the changing field of trauma, a deeper understanding |
| 1:28.8 | of the impacts of adverse childhood experiences, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, |
| 1:34.5 | and how NARM, one of the first models specifically designed to address C-PTSD, can support |
| 1:40.0 | professionals in the growing trauma-informed field. The online basics training will be taught by |
| 1:45.2 | NARM creator Dr. Lawrence Heller, NARM senior faculty members Brad Kammer and Stephanie Klein, and a team of |
| 1:51.6 | experienced NARM trainers. During the four-month online training, they will explore the complex |
| 1:57.3 | themes like difference between shock trauma and developmental trauma, working with |
| 2:01.6 | guilt, shame, and self-sabotage, the impact of complex trauma on relationships, families, |
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