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Mark, welcome to the unmistakable creative.

Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

I can hardly wait to find it what we talk about.

That seems about right, which is kind of how it goes with every single person we have here.

Well, you know, I came across your work by a couple of different avenues.

One, just by browsing on Amazon and becoming very curious about who you were and what you were up to.

And then by way of, you know, our mutual friend Gary Goldstein who was a former guest here.

So on that note, can you tell us a bit about yourself your story your background your

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