So today's conversation, it deconstructs something that can be deeply disabling for so many. Shame.

In it, you'll discover a surprising insight that explains why some people can't shake shame,

even when they do all the, quote, right things. You'll learn a simple yet profound shift that

helps you shed shame and rebuild a sense of worth and belonging.

And an unexpected path to healing that doesn't require you to get uncomfortably vulnerable

just out of the gate. You'll also learn a simple way to spot when shame is shaping your

relationships and your choices in ways that you really would prefer them not to be and what

to do about it.

If you've ever felt like no amount of success quiets the feeling that something inside of you is still not okay, or if you've ever wondered why certain deeply human experiences leave echoes

that follow you for decades, today's conversation offers you a rare kind of clarity.

It opens a window into an emotion.

All of us carry it. Almost none of us understand. And it reveals how it weaves into ambition,

relationships, identity, and the ways we show up in the world. My guest today is Dr. Zoe Shaw.

She's a licensed psychotherapist, writer, speaker, relationship coach, and host of the podcast, Stronger in the Difficult Places.

After 15 years in traditional psychotherapy, she set out to develop a more dynamic way to help women heal, blending psychology, faith, and a grounded, empowering feminist lens.

She is also the author of Stronger in the Difficult Places,

heal your relationship with yourself by untangling complex shame, the book at the center of this conversation. And so he brings both deep clinical expertise and lived experience

to this work, making her perspective just uniquely resonant and incredibly moving

and practical and useful.

So excited to share this conversation with you.

I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is Good Life Project.

We've been having fun starting our conversations a little bit differently recently.

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