Hey, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joe Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonia Dodge. If you listen to our podcast, you probably have heard us talk about the Hat model.

The Hat model is a model we use to understand

personal development in some of its subcategories.

Hat stands for healing, achievement, and transcendence. And we have a

tendency to stick with the achievement component of personal development here at Personality

Hacker. But the healing component is incredibly important and one aspect of

healing that I don't know if we've ever really covered is healing the body.

Yeah. Our physical traumas can are just as big a part of our journey and our

process as any other component of personal development. Yeah we so we'd love to

talk about that today and in fact we've brought one of our friends, Bill Paravano.

He's an online, he's known as the knee pain guru. He's an expert at helping people solve pain issues in their knees without shots, surgery, drugs, or any kind of, you know, artificial means.

He helps people solve this pain in their body.

And we thought we'd bring them on today to talk specifically about pain in the body, about healing, about staying

healthy and managing that in your life.

So welcome Bill to Personality Hacker.

Hey guys.

Hey Bill, so you and I have actually been friends for quite a while,

and when I think of my short list of go-to people

that know their stuff around physical health

and taking care of their bodies,

you always make my short list you've said things in the

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