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G-I-R-L-S-C, A-N.P. It's Girls Camp.

Hello everyone and welcome to the Girls Camp podcast. I'm your host, Haley Rawl.

And today we are going to get into the messier, more vulnerable, more embarrassing,

even perhaps side of healing. I feel like I talk about

healing a lot, being on a healing journey. I think anyone who's left high demand religion or

has deconstructed something in some way, as you reconstruct, you are healing in some way or another. I also think that all of us have

things to heal from and we are all trying to heal in some way. And I feel like I'm always kind of

talking around this subject and this comes up here and there. So we are just going to dedicate

today to talk about healing and more specifically the harder

side of healing. If you didn't know already, I am going to therapy right now and I actually am

trying for my very first time EMDR sessions. I've done two. I have had some pretty major

breakthroughs that I want to talk to about

in depth. So I'm going to do that. But I also thought it would be interesting to talk through

the healing modalities that I've tried up until this point, the things I've liked, the things I

haven't liked, what I hope to try in the future, just all things attempting to

heal. A friend of mine actually posted something that I wish I took a screenshot of a little bit

ago, and someone was asking them in a Q&A, they don't talk all that much about leaving the church,

but they have left the church. And somebody asked them what their experience was like leaving the church, the Mormon church, in this specific context.

And they said something to the effect of leaving the church is not as advertised. It's actually

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