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I did think it was interesting on the all rookie team that Kyler

Murray made the team.

Now I know there wasn't in terms of rookie quarterbacks this year, you know, I don't

him or a gardener.

Yeah, I mean there really wasn't much competition, but I think as we take just kind of a

retro retrospective on his rookie year, there were a lot of questions. was a big you know talking point and I think I don't

do you think here's how I'm thinking about it is Kyler's stock higher right now than

Baker's was after his rookie year?

Uh, no, because I feel like the analytical community thought Baker was like Aaron Rogers. They did because they put him on all the tears.

I think Baker stock was inflated high.

I feel Kyler Murray is not inflated because the team he plays for. Most people didn't watch

them. Even though you would think most people didn't watch Cleveland, I just think we thought more

highly of Baker after the season than Kyler.

And I don't think that's fair, but that's the...

So Kyler's just more under the radar.

I have that same feel.

Yeah, which is crazy because I thought he'd be such a lightning rod.

The Browns are just.

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