And to look at the effect this civil war has had on the people as well as next steps,

we turn to Jan Egelent, Secretary General of the Norwegian Refugee Council, who just returned from Sudan.

Yon Egeland, thanks very much. Welcome back to the news hour. So what did you see when you were there?

What I saw confirmed the following.

In South Kodofan, we have the worst war and the worst hunger catastrophe within Sudan,

which is, in turn, the largest humanitarian crisis on earth today. I met with countless women, children, because it's really women and children,

fleeing from besieged cities, including Cadugli, the biggest city, and they're fleeing from

horrific violence, but also from a famine declared inside there, because we cannot get into this besieged city without

food.

And what are the some of the stories that they shared with you?

Well, I met with several of these who are young, single mothers now, because their story

was that in the morning, our husbands went to search for food.

Then a drone came and bombed and torched our home.

So we fled, one with a nursing baby on her arm and four other kids below the age of nine.

They walked for two, three days to the camp where we in the Norwegian Refugee Council give them food and emergency aid.

And they haven't heard from their husbands and fathers.

And now we have the biggest gap anywhere in the world between urgent needs and available

aid where too few organizations on the ground and were overstretched and underfunded.

As we saw in the story that preceded our conversation,

General Burhan, the head of the Sudanese armed forces,

described where you just went as liberated.

Is that how the people who you spoke to see it?

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