He Was Trying to Do Anything to Control Us

I Survived

A&E / PodcastOne

True Crime, Talk Radio

3.2 • 5.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In November of 1986, 25-year-old Josefina Rivera's life comes to a devastating halt when she's kidnapped by 43-year-old Gary Heidnik. Over the next four months, Josefina lives shackled in a basement while her captor abducts four more women to hold hostage in his "house of horrors." Josefina recounts a gripping tale of endurance and the shrewd calculations that helped her devise a plan of escape. Sponsors: Apartments.com: Visit Apartments.com, the place to find a place. Simplisafe: Customize the perfect system for your home in just a few minutes at simplisafe.com/SURVIVED. Go today and claim a free indoor security camera plus 20% off your order with Interactive Monitoring. PDS Debt: PDS DEBT is offering free debt analysis to our listeners just for completing the quick and easy debt assessment at www.PDSDebt.com/survived

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0:00.0	An A&E, Original Podcast.
0:02.8	This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault and violence.
0:07.6	Listener discretion is advised.
0:10.0	I don't know. She was, she was basically a hero as well because if it wasn't for her
0:16.2	death I wouldn't be free.
0:20.3	Josephina Rivera grew up in the early 80s in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and was raised in the foster system.
0:28.0	I had great foster parents. I went to Catholic school. I graduated. I had an amazing childhood, I had everything I could possibly want it.
0:38.0	I went to Temple for a couple years, got an associate degree in accounting.
0:42.0	So the direction I turned in, who knows why.
0:46.0	Probably boredom. Things become interesting and you try different things that are not always good
0:52.3	for you, but we do. And it just kind of took me down a different path that I really shouldn't have been going in.
0:58.0	Just drugs, prostitution.
1:03.0	On November 25th, 1986, then 25 year old Josephina went out looking for clients.
1:10.0	It was just before Thanksgiving,
1:12.0	so she didn't think she would have a very successful night.
1:16.0	And I didn't really want to go out. I knew something was going to happen.
1:20.0	I had a feeling that something was going to happen and it wasn't going to be good.
1:23.1	But I went out anyway and I ended up walking down Dry Avenue.
1:27.8	It was dark out.
1:28.8	It was around 8 or 9 o'clock.
1:30.4	It was kind of damp, a little rainy. It wasn't real warm. A car went past me. This great Cadillac went past me a couple times.
1:39.0	He finally pulled over. I went over and talked so I in the car. He was like 6. 1. He had a beer. He wore glasses. He was kind of heavy. He was white.
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