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🗓️ 5 April 2025
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Dahlia Lithwick. Welcome to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court. |
0:13.3 | When I saw it, I immediately broke down. The administration maintains the position that this individual who was deported to El Salvador and will not be returning to our country |
0:23.6 | was a member of the brutal and vicious MS-13 gang. |
0:27.6 | I've seen news of that prison, and I know they take criminals there, and my husband's not a criminal. |
0:34.6 | The error that you are referring to was a clerical error. |
0:38.1 | It was an administrative error. I was scared for his life. |
0:43.1 | The historian Tim Snyder, writer Adam Surwer, and others describe the terrorism confinement center in El Salvador or Seekot, simply as a gulag. How else can you describe the |
0:56.4 | Black Sight prison camp that America pays for to which anyone can be disappeared based on a tattoo |
1:03.2 | or wearing a Chicago Bulls hat? And even if that disappearing happened in error, which according to the U.S. government this past week, can happen, there's nothing to be done about it. |
1:15.8 | We're going to speak to the lawyer for a man trapped in this anti-constitutional habeas corpus vacuum, this Kafka nightmare, in just a couple of minutes. |
1:26.0 | After that, Slate Senior writer Mark Joseph Stern is going to |
1:29.0 | join me to talk about the legality of Donald Trump's disastrous tariffs this week. But first, |
1:37.4 | and first of all, I want to thank El Salvador and their president for their partnership with |
1:41.4 | the United States of America to bring our terrorists here |
1:44.3 | and to incarcerate them and have consequences for the violence that they have perpetuated in our |
1:48.9 | communities. It was not possible to talk to the men in the background of Secretary of State |
1:54.3 | for Homeland Security, Christy Noam's propaganda video filmed in El Salvador last week. We couldn't ask |
2:00.4 | them about the conditions they're enduring |
2:02.2 | in Seacot or who they are or whether they have access to counsel or if they even know what |
2:07.5 | they're accused of because these men are voiceless props in the Trump regime's tough guy porn, |
2:13.4 | set dressings in the new authoritarian aesthetic. We can't speak to the men in that prison camp in El Salvador, but we do now know that one of |
2:21.8 | these men is Kilmar Armando Abrago Garcia, the Maryland husband of an American citizen, |
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