You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life. So one day I'll be

helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature, and the next looking at

how a podcast connects with its audience. And maybe that's you. So if you like this podcast,

check out some others on BBC Sounds.

I was a huge X-Men fan.

And there were two particular characters that I really identified with when I was growing up.

They were Nightcrawler.

And then the other character I really liked was called Archangel.

And he was this preppy kid with these big feathered angel wings.

But then he got kidnapped by a villain, and the villain chopped his wings off and replaced him with evil metal wings.

These metal wings that on their own, the metal wings would go and kill people.

The metal wings were evil, and he couldn't control them, and he had to fight against his own wings to take his powers back.

And when he gets angry, he flips into his archangel persona and his archangel persona is the one that does all the damage. So those two characters were the ones that I really identify with.

The archangel image is really striking because if you were thinking of yourself in that character,

there's basically a nice person who's been given some metal wings

that do a lot of damage and that they can't control.

Is that how you felt?

That kind of is.

Like, at the time I didn't think of it,

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